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runs pakistan. is it the president aseef ali czar dary or general par vez kayani? that issue is becoming more and more critical. he'll do his best to fill us in on the clash between the civilian and military leaders in pakistan. >> reporter: yeah, you know, eliot, it is such a complicated picture here. the question you ask who is really in charge, it goes to the heart of pakistan. there has always been in tension between the military and also the civilian government. it's been there from the beginning of pakistan partitioned from india. when the two have clashed, it hasn't ended well for civilian governments in past. we've seen civilian leaders executed, assassinated, banished from the country. we've seen military coups. not that i suggest that will happen here but it does bring this into focus. with all the questions beinged ask about osama bin laden, what did the military know, what did the intelligence service know? kayani will answer some of these questions. it will be a closed session. but we u
runs pakistan. is it the president aseef ali czar dary or general par vez kayani? that issue is becoming more and more critical. he'll do his best to fill us in on the clash between the civilian and military leaders in pakistan. >> reporter: yeah, you know, eliot, it is such a complicated picture here. the question you ask who is really in charge, it goes to the heart of pakistan. there has always been in tension between the military and also the civilian government. it's been there from...
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if this becomes pakistan's war, i think pakistan will win the war. if it's perceived that pakistan army is a mercenary army of the u.s., we have no chance of winning. >> i agree the scale of human tragedy is beyond words. we all share the concerns about that. something you just said i am troubled by. you said if it is the pakistani war against terror, you will win. at the same time the leader of your military is refusing to pursue the leaders of al qaeda and some of the most violent terrorist groups in pakistan. why should we in the united states have confidence that the pakistani military is going to do everything it can do to pursue terrorists? >> well, this is why i'm saying the fact u.s. thinks pakistan military is playing a double game can only be because they want the u.s. money and at the same time they are patronizing terrorists. i guess that's what the pakistan army is being accused of. if we don't take any aid, if we have a credible government, the interest is there should be no terrorism from pakistani soil. a credible government should sa
if this becomes pakistan's war, i think pakistan will win the war. if it's perceived that pakistan army is a mercenary army of the u.s., we have no chance of winning. >> i agree the scale of human tragedy is beyond words. we all share the concerns about that. something you just said i am troubled by. you said if it is the pakistani war against terror, you will win. at the same time the leader of your military is refusing to pursue the leaders of al qaeda and some of the most violent...
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they're in pakistan. the notion that we can protect ourselves by shutting down every country in the world where they may be a base makes no sense. >> there is -- does seem to be an consistency here. are we negotiating now with the taliban? >> it's unclear. and it's a kind of a, i don't know, you have the afghans, you have the talibans, you have the pakistanis, you have the u.s. the pakistanis want us to negotiate with some taliban and not others. the taliban are a terrible group of people and i wouldn't want to live there and they wouldn't want me there. >> how do you respond to that? if the taliban do return to afghanistan, women's rights will be run over, maybe children will lose fundamental rights, access to education, things we believe in. >> i agree with that and that's true about saudi arabia. i wouldn't send a feminist to saudi arabia. as a gay jew, i'm not planning to move to riyadh. there are plenty of places in the world where the things we care about are not very well protected. we have the lun
they're in pakistan. the notion that we can protect ourselves by shutting down every country in the world where they may be a base makes no sense. >> there is -- does seem to be an consistency here. are we negotiating now with the taliban? >> it's unclear. and it's a kind of a, i don't know, you have the afghans, you have the talibans, you have the pakistanis, you have the u.s. the pakistanis want us to negotiate with some taliban and not others. the taliban are a terrible group of...
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it comes to pakistan right now? you state the nukes obviously. they're the fifth largest nuclear power in the world. over 100 weapons over there. protecting them from an al qaeda-type capture is mission number one. is that fair to say? >> keeping those nuclear weapons out of irresponsible hands is an enormously important interest of the united states and the whole world. >> and so given that, while there are cries and one understands the visceral emotional level to completely disengage from pakistan given what many people see as the duplicity of their relationship with us, would that accomplish the purpose or do we need some type of continuity of engagement with them to try to pull them closer to us? >> i think the latter. i think the united states has a strong interest in maintaining important relationships with key institutions in pakistan like the military. we actually did cut off for years our military-to-military relations with pakistan over their nuclear program. and the result was an entire generation of paki
it comes to pakistan right now? you state the nukes obviously. they're the fifth largest nuclear power in the world. over 100 weapons over there. protecting them from an al qaeda-type capture is mission number one. is that fair to say? >> keeping those nuclear weapons out of irresponsible hands is an enormously important interest of the united states and the whole world. >> and so given that, while there are cries and one understands the visceral emotional level to completely...
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we give billions of dollars to pakistan. if you were to make the argument, here's what you've gotten in return for your investment, what would be the best thing that we could say we've gotten from that money that's been spent? >> well, look for a start. this is the prerogative of the united states. it must decide whether the assistance it give s builds the kind of influence it wants with pakistan or it doesn't. pakistan reacted very coolly -- >> i understand the influence but i'm just asking for something specific, something concrete we can say, this is what we got. >> look, pakistan's cooperation is long-standing, if the united states today says it has managed to degrade al qaeda to the point where in a way the defeat of al qaeda is within reach, you know, washington needs to ask who helped them do this, and i think that's a question only washington can evaluate for itself. pakistan has reacted very coolly to the suspension of military assistance. it has simply said already that this military assistance actually will not st
we give billions of dollars to pakistan. if you were to make the argument, here's what you've gotten in return for your investment, what would be the best thing that we could say we've gotten from that money that's been spent? >> well, look for a start. this is the prerogative of the united states. it must decide whether the assistance it give s builds the kind of influence it wants with pakistan or it doesn't. pakistan reacted very coolly -- >> i understand the influence but i'm...
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pakistan. we got bin laden. but now pakistan's intelligence service is rounding up the people who helped us get him. i'll ask a former cia officer, is this revenge? >>> and america under siege. a new wave of cyber attacks threatens to crash our systems, from power grids to banks to national defense. edie hill asks an expert, is this our next pearl harbor? >>> then, are we at war in libya? a group of congressmen say of course. president obama says no. so now they're going to court. now, for more on our top story, what's keeping the u.s. economy from turning around? jobs, jobs, jobs. we all know that. almost 25 million americans are unemployed or underemployed. all say that number again. almost 25 million americans either not working or forced to work part time. my guest tonight knows a whole lot about jobs and the american economy as vice chairman of general motors, bob lutz has been at the top of the auto industry. in fact, he helped turned the industry around. he talks about that in his new book "car guys versu
pakistan. we got bin laden. but now pakistan's intelligence service is rounding up the people who helped us get him. i'll ask a former cia officer, is this revenge? >>> and america under siege. a new wave of cyber attacks threatens to crash our systems, from power grids to banks to national defense. edie hill asks an expert, is this our next pearl harbor? >>> then, are we at war in libya? a group of congressmen say of course. president obama says no. so now they're going to...
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now the equipment is in pakistan's hands. what the pakistanis may do with it is scaring so many people in the u.s. government. now to brian todd in washington for more on the possibility our supposed ally pakistan is going to share our secret technology from that chopper with china. what's going on here, brian? >> reporter: eliot, we're learning incredible new details on the classified stealth helicopters used in that ben laden raid. there are concerns tonight some technology may soon fall into the hands of the chinese if it hasn't already. in their haste to get out with the body of osama bin laden, navy s.e.a.l.s detonate their disabled helicopter but one crucial part is left behind, largely intact. the tail rotor assembly left outside the compound's wall where it crashed. pakistani troops were seen hauling it away. now, serious concerns that america's chief technological rival will learn some key secrets from the wreckage. >> we ought to assume the chinese are going to get this technology, they're going to get it all. >> re
now the equipment is in pakistan's hands. what the pakistanis may do with it is scaring so many people in the u.s. government. now to brian todd in washington for more on the possibility our supposed ally pakistan is going to share our secret technology from that chopper with china. what's going on here, brian? >> reporter: eliot, we're learning incredible new details on the classified stealth helicopters used in that ben laden raid. there are concerns tonight some technology may soon...
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that's pakistan right now. sorry you caught us. >> if we terminated the relationship and divorced for lack of a better metaphor, that's what you recommend we get, wouldn't they then continue and make it that much worse by sending the nuclear technology with greater abandon to other regimes and continue to harbor al qaeda and the taliban? don't we need to build this rather than sever it? >> we tried to build for 50 years. the fear of proliferation, they are doing it. what we know is a country very well how to contain a stake that has nuclear weapons i think we will have to do the same with iran. the things make it very clear to them that if they misbehave, their nuclear sites can be taken out. if they proliferate, there ways of taking out nuclear scientists and engaged in proliferation. it's violent and covert, but sometimes these things should be done. if removing a nuclear physicist is necessary, we should do it and make it clear to the pakastanis who are willing to take that stuff. now we can't take those ste
that's pakistan right now. sorry you caught us. >> if we terminated the relationship and divorced for lack of a better metaphor, that's what you recommend we get, wouldn't they then continue and make it that much worse by sending the nuclear technology with greater abandon to other regimes and continue to harbor al qaeda and the taliban? don't we need to build this rather than sever it? >> we tried to build for 50 years. the fear of proliferation, they are doing it. what we know is...
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drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our relationship with the pakistanis. i think this going public with the cut in the military aid package is an expression of frustration that the private efforts have not succeeded. i would like to suggest that we need a game changer here. the pakistanis have been worried about india for years. that drives their policy in afghanistan and even in pakistan. i think if we could ratchet up efforts to convene a regional conference, peace conference, including china, russia, india and then the countries in the ren region, including iran, we h
drone attack in pakistan. do you think we're deciding to take on more of this responsibility ourselves? not trusting the pakistanis to take out the militants? >> president obama has been ratcheting up the drone attacks for a long time. they've increased gee metically on his watch, but it's also true that some pakistanis were killed by terror groups in a part of the country that hasn't seen violence today. either way you look at this, e.d., we're in a downward spiral in terms of our...
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let's use this to improve the lives of people in pakistan. yes, the government worries that there is the angry element that will gain traction but for all of those you see on the streets, there are plenty of others would just want a better life. >> what if anything has been heard from al qaeda? is there any voice? is there any formal response to members of al qaeda who are still there saying we're ready to fight or are they back on their heel, recognizing not only that their leader has been killed but also that the united states now has a treasure trove of information about them? what, if anything, is the sense on street about al qaeda? >> well, we nole that these groups, these al qaeda followers like to chat on some sort of jihadist forums and there's mixed messages. some are saying if you've got an attack ready, do it now. others are saying no, we need to strike big, let's plan our attacks. others say, let's see what the americans are getting here. but interestingly, it seems to be that the jihadists are the ones accepting at the moment in
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hopefully those in pakistan as well. thanks so much for being with us. >>> coming up, our relationship with pakistan is at a cross roads as some in congress argued to break ties. there's no one that understands the consequences of that better than farid zakaria. i'll talk with him about that next. apacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible. [ pneumatic wrench buzzing ] [ slap! slap! slap! ] [ male announcer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums ♪ ♪ stay inside? nah. not when you have a five-star overall vehicle score for safety. one more reason chevy traverse delivers more. if you have painful, swollen joints, i've been in your shoes. one day i'm on p of the world... t
hopefully those in pakistan as well. thanks so much for being with us. >>> coming up, our relationship with pakistan is at a cross roads as some in congress argued to break ties. there's no one that understands the consequences of that better than farid zakaria. i'll talk with him about that next. apacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places...
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the afghan/pakistan border. it comes a day after the pakistani intelligence agency demanded the cia scale back their attacks. it's the first drone strike since march 17 attack killed dozens of civilians which led to widespread anti-american protests. i spoke earlier with imran khan, an outspoken critic of u.s. policy in his country. mr. khan, thanks so much for joining us. >> pleasure. >> so, can we agree that the united states and pakistan have a common interest in rooting out the presence of al qaeda that is hiding within pakistan? >> absolutely. i think both countries have a common interest there. >> so then the question inevitably arises, how do we accomplish that objective? clearly at this moment the relationship between pakistan and the united states is spiraling down over the issue of the use of drones. what would your strategy be to root out the presence of al qaeda within pakistan? >> well, what i would do is isolate al qaeda and i would isolate al qaeda by winning over the tribal people over to my side
the afghan/pakistan border. it comes a day after the pakistani intelligence agency demanded the cia scale back their attacks. it's the first drone strike since march 17 attack killed dozens of civilians which led to widespread anti-american protests. i spoke earlier with imran khan, an outspoken critic of u.s. policy in his country. mr. khan, thanks so much for joining us. >> pleasure. >> so, can we agree that the united states and pakistan have a common interest in rooting out the...
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which one is pakistan? as new revelations emerge, e.d. hill asks can our enemy's enemy ever be trusted again? >>> now for our headliner segment. what happened inside that hotel room? only two people know. one is sitting in a jail cell. the other one-a hotel maid, is in hiding. she is a widow and single mother from guininuinea with no formal education and little english. her lawyer spoke to cnn a few hours ago in his first national television interview. he described her version of what happened behind closed doors. >> she was instructed to go in the room to clean the room, and while she was in there she was sexually assaulted by this man. she escaped, managed to escape, and when she did, she reported it to security and it was then reported to the police and the events took place after that. she was afraid for her life. she was being physically and sexually assaulted. and her whole idea was to get out of there and get away from this man, which thank god she was successful in doing. there wasn't any aspect of this encounter which in any way
which one is pakistan? as new revelations emerge, e.d. hill asks can our enemy's enemy ever be trusted again? >>> now for our headliner segment. what happened inside that hotel room? only two people know. one is sitting in a jail cell. the other one-a hotel maid, is in hiding. she is a widow and single mother from guininuinea with no formal education and little english. her lawyer spoke to cnn a few hours ago in his first national television interview. he described her version of what...
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and al qaeda is based in part in the tribal areas of pakistan. and pakistan is fighting a war of its own against domestic terrorists who have been killing isi officers by the dozens who are also based in the tribal areas. so the realty that i think both sides understand is that they need each other. but, you know, they are like classic married couple who can't stop fighting. a friend said to me the other day that a divorce would be too bad for the kids. you can't consider it. but that they need counseling in a hurry. and this case of raymond davis is a perfect example. absent some intervention, some way of resolving this, it's going to go to court. and it's going to be as one of my pakistani sources said, like an atomic bomb, not just for the cia and the americans, but for the pakistanis. all questions about how did he get there, who approved his visas, what was he doing -- >> look, there are going to be 100 issues factually it what the cia is doing inside pakistan. there are also going to be bishops whether the isi, the pakistani intelligence ag
and al qaeda is based in part in the tribal areas of pakistan. and pakistan is fighting a war of its own against domestic terrorists who have been killing isi officers by the dozens who are also based in the tribal areas. so the realty that i think both sides understand is that they need each other. but, you know, they are like classic married couple who can't stop fighting. a friend said to me the other day that a divorce would be too bad for the kids. you can't consider it. but that they need...
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of course, our efforts must also address terrorists safe havens in pakistan. no country is more endangered by the presence of violence extremist which is why we'll secure a more peaceful future for this war-torn region and root out the cancer of violent extremism and we'll insist that it keeps its commitments. for there should be no doubt that so long as i am president, the united states will never tolerate a safe haven for those who aim to kill us. they cannot allude us nor escape the justice they deserve. my fellow americans, this has been a difficult decade for our country. we've learned the cost of war and the cost that's been paid by the nearly 4,500 americans who have given their lives in iraq and over 1,500 who have done so in afghanistan. men and women who will not live to enjoy the freedom that they defended. thousands more have been wounded. some have lost limbs on the battlefield and others still battle the demons that have followed them home. yet tonight we take comfort in knowing that the tide of war is receding. fewer of our sons and daughters ar
of course, our efforts must also address terrorists safe havens in pakistan. no country is more endangered by the presence of violence extremist which is why we'll secure a more peaceful future for this war-torn region and root out the cancer of violent extremism and we'll insist that it keeps its commitments. for there should be no doubt that so long as i am president, the united states will never tolerate a safe haven for those who aim to kill us. they cannot allude us nor escape the justice...
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in pakistan, what do you think? >> let's be honest, it's the fight in afghanistan and eventually yesterday into pakistan that led us to where we are, which is the death of osama bin laden. the question is, should we have been there before? absolutely, yes. do we need to remain in pakistan in i guess that's the question we're going to have to ask ourselves now. >> let me ask you the tough question, should we? >> yes, i don't think the job is done. and i look back on the navy s.e.a.l.s carried out at tremendous operation yesterday with lieutenant michael murphy from out where i live in long island, embedded in the mountains of afghanistan years ago. and all but one survived. there was a job that started back then. and that job still needs to continue now. >> you want to continue that job until we defeat al qaeda, until it's gone altogether? >> i think to a man we both know that it's probably never going to be defeated forever. but we need to maintain a presence. we need to show that what happened yesterday, we're goin
in pakistan, what do you think? >> let's be honest, it's the fight in afghanistan and eventually yesterday into pakistan that led us to where we are, which is the death of osama bin laden. the question is, should we have been there before? absolutely, yes. do we need to remain in pakistan in i guess that's the question we're going to have to ask ourselves now. >> let me ask you the tough question, should we? >> yes, i don't think the job is done. and i look back on the navy...
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don't become a client state of pakistan. we're in the midst of a regional power dynamic. >> there are four players there. pakistan, al qaeda, the taliban and then the afghan government of karzai, right? we think that our allies here are karzai and the pakistani government but they're now in a very simple level getting together to say we can't rely on the united states, let's get rid of them, pakistan having picked out the cia, publicly, although i'm sure it hasn't happened. they have said no more drones even though that has been our best attack against al qaeda. karzai flirting with the taliban. so who are our friends there? and what is our interest? and how are we going to effectuate it before we do get kicked out? >> it's an a great question. add in two other outside players. china, which the pakistanis are trying to tell the afghans, if you need money, if you need investment, why to you need america? we can get you china. of course, there's india. where one of our trump cards could be, fine, if you guys don't want to deal
don't become a client state of pakistan. we're in the midst of a regional power dynamic. >> there are four players there. pakistan, al qaeda, the taliban and then the afghan government of karzai, right? we think that our allies here are karzai and the pakistani government but they're now in a very simple level getting together to say we can't rely on the united states, let's get rid of them, pakistan having picked out the cia, publicly, although i'm sure it hasn't happened. they have said...
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this is afghanistan here, pakistan over this way. these are areas where the taliban has exerted the most control, down here in the south, over to the east, we have red, limited control in orange areas, encroaching in yellow. this is the area we really focused. look what happened as the surge troops came in. troop presence came in and really filled it hard, u.s. troops in the most troubled area, italian troops, german troops here, some other major groups. but look what happens when we mix them together. we have a substantial stabilization of parts of the country, compared to how it was before, with all of the troops coming in here, and the taliban largely being pushed down into areas like this and over here. who do you get out of here? you can take out support troops involved in building bridges, roads, baracks, and all the things to bring in extra troops. you can take outcome bat troops if you take some of the calmer regions. although there is push back from some generals saying no, take them from areas like this, you push them more
this is afghanistan here, pakistan over this way. these are areas where the taliban has exerted the most control, down here in the south, over to the east, we have red, limited control in orange areas, encroaching in yellow. this is the area we really focused. look what happened as the surge troops came in. troop presence came in and really filled it hard, u.s. troops in the most troubled area, italian troops, german troops here, some other major groups. but look what happens when we mix them...
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pakistan, iraq and other countries have suffered both from bin laden and george bush's war on terror which i hope president obama ends because it's time to close guantanamo and time to stop committing the injustices that we should be better than. because we must not descend to the levels -- >> mona -- >> can i jump in? >> before you do so, mona, you raised a host of issues there, that maybe we can revisit another day. hibah, respond how you reacted to what you saw at ground zero, either by being there, more likely given that you're in albuquerque, to watching it on tv. >> i have to say that when 9/11 happened, when i saw these scenes of muslims celebrating in the street, it was so horrific to me and it was completely distasteful. and i think like mona said, americans are better than this. we need to take a higher moral ground. we need to not celebrate death in this way and instead show people we are humbled by these
pakistan, iraq and other countries have suffered both from bin laden and george bush's war on terror which i hope president obama ends because it's time to close guantanamo and time to stop committing the injustices that we should be better than. because we must not descend to the levels -- >> mona -- >> can i jump in? >> before you do so, mona, you raised a host of issues there, that maybe we can revisit another day. hibah, respond how you reacted to what you saw at ground...
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what i worry about long-term is if you get civil war in yemen, right now pakistan's very hot for the al qaeda guys, and a lot of people, recruits and fund-raisers, will look at a place like yemen where the government cannot exercise authority and say, maybe we'd ought to go there. i'd worry about safe haven and space for them to operate long-term. >> when we start figuring out how we're going to deal with certain countries, i get very nervous. because you take a look at libya. we think, okay, there's this arab spring, we're going to be supportive of the people wanting to spread what we call democracy. the way they look at it, it seems to be very different if we're talking about that in yemen and the president being ousted and someone else coming in, are we getting anybody, perhaps, better than what we've already got, or are we just sort of throwing it up into the air and seeing what lands? >> i think we are way too optimistic about this. and i think when history is written in 10, 20, or 30 years, this word "arab spring" will be laughed at. look, what we've got here is a process that
what i worry about long-term is if you get civil war in yemen, right now pakistan's very hot for the al qaeda guys, and a lot of people, recruits and fund-raisers, will look at a place like yemen where the government cannot exercise authority and say, maybe we'd ought to go there. i'd worry about safe haven and space for them to operate long-term. >> when we start figuring out how we're going to deal with certain countries, i get very nervous. because you take a look at libya. we think,...
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right now our relations with pakistan aren't good. if we back out of afghanistan and they keep playing both sides of the border, how do we not end up in three years where we were ten years ago which is to say they now have free range to do what they want? >> you hit it on the central dilemma which is why, in my opinion, the number of troops, the pace of withdrawal doesn't matter. the end of the day, the pakistani military is the largest force in the region. 600,000 troops, very powerful military with deep connections to the taliban. they know one day we'll leave. so can we get the pakistanis to recognize they should be a force for stability? that's far more important than whether we leave 30,000 troops in afghanistan because at the end of the day the pakistanis will have the trump card. they have the safe havens, the relationships with the taliban and if they intend to play the destabilizing role, i don't know what we can do about it. it's a conversation between washington and islamabad that's important, not kabul. >> if you had to pr
right now our relations with pakistan aren't good. if we back out of afghanistan and they keep playing both sides of the border, how do we not end up in three years where we were ten years ago which is to say they now have free range to do what they want? >> you hit it on the central dilemma which is why, in my opinion, the number of troops, the pace of withdrawal doesn't matter. the end of the day, the pakistani military is the largest force in the region. 600,000 troops, very powerful...
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the parts that are in pakistan right now, the hakani, omar himself. you're not going to be able to negotiate with any of these guys and you're not going to be able to bring them in government, unless you're willing to give up anything and everything we've gained now. which is probably very little. >> i agree with you. i share your view, we gave very little. do you think this is also perhaps an internal fight within taliban? in other words, there may be some factions, let's begin the negotiations and others who are saying, let's make it impossible for those negotiations to move forward. it's difficult for the president at this moment to go before the american people as he's going to tomorrow at a press conference and rationalize and explain how he can begin to negotiate with a terrorist group like this that has just perpetrated this act? >> there are many different taliban at many different levels, the people who really have studied them for a lifetime and explained this to me, i don't pretend to be that person. what i understand, there are some in pak
the parts that are in pakistan right now, the hakani, omar himself. you're not going to be able to negotiate with any of these guys and you're not going to be able to bring them in government, unless you're willing to give up anything and everything we've gained now. which is probably very little. >> i agree with you. i share your view, we gave very little. do you think this is also perhaps an internal fight within taliban? in other words, there may be some factions, let's begin the...
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raid in pakistan, they say that information should never have been released. in a pentagon briefing told, joint chiefs chairmen mike mullen and defense secretary bob gates expressed strong concern for safety of the s.e.a.l.s. each of them gave a stark warning. >> from my perspective, it is time to stop talking. and we have talked far too much about this. we need to move on. it's a story that if we don't stop talking, it will never end. and it needs to. >> i'm very concerned about this. because we -- we won't to retain the capability to carry out these kinds of operations in the future. and when so much detail is available, it makes that both more difficult and riskier. now, with respect to the s.e.a.l.s, in my meeting with them the thursday after the operation, they did express concern not so much for themselves but for their families. and all i will say is that we have been taking a close look at that and we will do whatever is necessary. >> chris lawrence is in washington. he joins me now. chris, so explain this to me. here you've got the two top guy s in th
raid in pakistan, they say that information should never have been released. in a pentagon briefing told, joint chiefs chairmen mike mullen and defense secretary bob gates expressed strong concern for safety of the s.e.a.l.s. each of them gave a stark warning. >> from my perspective, it is time to stop talking. and we have talked far too much about this. we need to move on. it's a story that if we don't stop talking, it will never end. and it needs to. >> i'm very concerned about...
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if the americans leave, militants from pakistan will flow through the valley. if they stay, then every few days, this happens. the mortars hit the base. the last attack was long enough ago there's panic. they're worried the taliban have been preparing a big one. after days of nothing, the insurgents have finally amassed around the compound and beginning to attack from all sides. >> come on, hustle up. grab it and be ready. >> reporter: they use mortars first, aiming for taliban dug into the hills, but the incoming fire is very accurate here. >> go, go, go, go, go! >> reporter: they arrange cover from heavy machine guns. >> grab a round. as soon as they go psycyclic, d it. >> reporter: but the bullets are too close. locals scatter. just before huge american fire power has the last word. >> oh, oh! >> reporter: four massive air strikes across the hills and then the taliban fall silent. america knew why it came here but isn't sure why it's staying. >> can we get like a police call for like cigarette butts. >> reporter: ten minutes later jets swoop in to straif the
if the americans leave, militants from pakistan will flow through the valley. if they stay, then every few days, this happens. the mortars hit the base. the last attack was long enough ago there's panic. they're worried the taliban have been preparing a big one. after days of nothing, the insurgents have finally amassed around the compound and beginning to attack from all sides. >> come on, hustle up. grab it and be ready. >> reporter: they use mortars first, aiming for taliban dug...
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we had quiet communications with the pakistan government during the bush administration, and we were clear that if we as a government had actual intelligence tooz where bin laden was that we would take him. we would take him out. i was not surprised that once we got that actual intelligence -- it takes a long time to develop that. we took the action that we did. >> did you think it was legally justifiable, killing bin laden the way we did, unarmed some. >> absolutely. he was a military target. as a military target, you know, you are going to get killed in an armed conflict. the only question in my mind it seems to me is whether or not did he try to surrender? if he tries to surrender, you have an obligation not to execute him, but, again, in the circumstances as i understand it -- and let's be very clear here, you know, i don't know what i don't know about what really happened. we're still unraveling, and the facts seem to change daily, but based on what i have observed and based on what i know, this seems to be a totally justified killing. >> if we had been able to take him alive --
we had quiet communications with the pakistan government during the bush administration, and we were clear that if we as a government had actual intelligence tooz where bin laden was that we would take him. we would take him out. i was not surprised that once we got that actual intelligence -- it takes a long time to develop that. we took the action that we did. >> did you think it was legally justifiable, killing bin laden the way we did, unarmed some. >> absolutely. he was a...
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are times, of course, the reason why we are part of it, the diplomatic immunity works in our way in pakistan. the u.s. came in and eventually claimed diplomatic immunity. >> raymond davis, it's unclear what status he had with the united states. >> enough. >> the u.s. government claimed him as their own. pakistanis weren't sure. there, the u.s. was pretty clear, even though he had shot and killed two people we were going to exert his right to be exempt from pakistani prosecution. >> duncan hollis, thank you very much. quite interesting. >>> coming up, the middle east, the demands for democracy may look like good news but maybe not if you live in israel. don't go away. that's next. >>> now, to violence in israel. thousands of palestinians surged across israel's borders this weekend in an eruption of violence that left more than a dozen people dead. the arab spring has come to israel's borders. and some day soon, we may look back at the 50 years of conflict as the gold old days. that's what the next guest believes michael shourd launched it in the cia, michael, welcome. >> thank you, sir. micha
are times, of course, the reason why we are part of it, the diplomatic immunity works in our way in pakistan. the u.s. came in and eventually claimed diplomatic immunity. >> raymond davis, it's unclear what status he had with the united states. >> enough. >> the u.s. government claimed him as their own. pakistanis weren't sure. there, the u.s. was pretty clear, even though he had shot and killed two people we were going to exert his right to be exempt from pakistani...
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intelligence sources agree on this probably the most dangerous al qaeda offshoot outside of the one in pakistan. so if this is the one, if you remember, that planned the printer cartridge bombs. >> the toner cartridges were going to be sent on the airplanes and blown up sent over to chicago. >> i don't tend to hype these things, those were very sophisticated bombs so clearly, there is a pretty advanced, technically advanced terrorist organization out there and al qaeda is actually gaining right now strength in yemen. >> in yemen, we are seeing the complete breakdown of civil society. the rebels are pushing back against an autocratic regime that's been helpful to the united states and we see chaos emerging and in that chaos you see al qaeda and the arabian peninsula will cement a foothold to cement a launching pad that we ought to be terrified of. >> president salei is finding himself battered, pushed from all sides including the international community. so he is withdrawing his army from all peripheral parts of yemen. so he's consolidating. now, what he's doing effectively is seating those peri
intelligence sources agree on this probably the most dangerous al qaeda offshoot outside of the one in pakistan. so if this is the one, if you remember, that planned the printer cartridge bombs. >> the toner cartridges were going to be sent on the airplanes and blown up sent over to chicago. >> i don't tend to hype these things, those were very sophisticated bombs so clearly, there is a pretty advanced, technically advanced terrorist organization out there and al qaeda is actually...
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that they have basically been pushed out of afghanistan and they may exist to the extent they do in pakistan but we want them to be dismantled and destroyed, as it were, but with respect to the taliban you set out a series of conditions which if they meet you would be willing to incorporate them into the afghan government. so do i understand this properly? >> well, as i said was that those -- if those condition will be met by them they accept our constitution and they are willing to be part of this political process by renouncing violence and cut the tie with al qaeda, they're more than welcome to join the political process. >> let me -- do you think that the military operation is assisting you in pushing or persuading the taliban to come to the negotiating table? >> correct. that was the -- the overall strategy, and now the momentum is such that we want to take the full advantage of that. >> in the areas where you feel the military operations have successfully pushed back the taliban, if the united states forces were to be withdrawn right now, do you think the taliban would return to those
that they have basically been pushed out of afghanistan and they may exist to the extent they do in pakistan but we want them to be dismantled and destroyed, as it were, but with respect to the taliban you set out a series of conditions which if they meet you would be willing to incorporate them into the afghan government. so do i understand this properly? >> well, as i said was that those -- if those condition will be met by them they accept our constitution and they are willing to be...
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mercenaries we're using, what do we call cia killer hit teams that are being used in afghanistan and pakistan? they would seem to fall under the same definition. the bigger problem is to whom do these people report in the middle east? everybody thinks mr. prince, who has been accused of running this, he denies it -- >> that's erik prince, who had founded a company called blackwater, a lot of people are familiar with the name blackwater. this company, r-2, says he's not affiliated with it in any way. there has been some debate about that. but -- >> correct. but he's moved to abu dhabi apparently. i doubt it is to learn how to make bedouin ceramics there. they're building a protection force and used to intervene in other arab countries. >> you talk about the loyalties. that's the very troubling part of this, at the heart of what is happening here for me. if you have americans going in there, hiring, training, operating their own battalion of foreign fighters in a foreign country, say the united states military or nato or anyone else we're affiliated with decides to take action against, civilian
mercenaries we're using, what do we call cia killer hit teams that are being used in afghanistan and pakistan? they would seem to fall under the same definition. the bigger problem is to whom do these people report in the middle east? everybody thinks mr. prince, who has been accused of running this, he denies it -- >> that's erik prince, who had founded a company called blackwater, a lot of people are familiar with the name blackwater. this company, r-2, says he's not affiliated with it...
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her mom, a sociologist from pakistan. she's born in kalamazoo, michigan. raised in saudi arabia. moved back to the u.s. to go to college. and then worked for first lady hillary clinton. >> so why this guy? apparently, according to james carville, she's one of the most popular people in the democratic party in washington, d.c. anthony weiner, even talking to follow democrats who want to like him, say he's a tough guy to really get, you know, warm up to. so why him? she apparently had george cloob clooney at her beck and call, john cusack, and she ends up with anthony weiner. >> well, you would know better than me what women look for. but i think a sense of humor. he's noted for that. and his intelligence. not evident lately but of course over the years. he's courted her actively. when he met her in the 2008 presidential campaign when she was by hillary clinton's side so long, he met her there and actively pursued her and obviously was victorious because 11 months ago, bill clinton performed the vows, officiating at their wedding. >> and that is what was so interesting to me. what
her mom, a sociologist from pakistan. she's born in kalamazoo, michigan. raised in saudi arabia. moved back to the u.s. to go to college. and then worked for first lady hillary clinton. >> so why this guy? apparently, according to james carville, she's one of the most popular people in the democratic party in washington, d.c. anthony weiner, even talking to follow democrats who want to like him, say he's a tough guy to really get, you know, warm up to. so why him? she apparently had...
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number two, close number two might be pakistan. yemen, if it is a failed state, is a huge opportunity for al qaeda to train in the boonies all over the country. the country's been in a sort of, kinda civil war which saleh has manipulated to stay in power for over 30 years. there are 150,000 small villages that are extremely poor, and aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, leaders are hiding out in those small villages protected by their tribes. this is a very messy situation, and my concern about saying as some are that libya is a stand-alone problem is that this is a zero-sum game here. we don't have enough brain cells or money or certainly soldiers, not that soldiers are on the ground in yemen, to put against every problem we have. cfo we're continuing this new fight in libya, we are taking resources, especially brain cells, away from yemen, and that worries me a great deal. >> well, that was a concern that i had. and that's why i wanted to speak with you this evening, to find out where you think we -- if we're looking at simpl
number two, close number two might be pakistan. yemen, if it is a failed state, is a huge opportunity for al qaeda to train in the boonies all over the country. the country's been in a sort of, kinda civil war which saleh has manipulated to stay in power for over 30 years. there are 150,000 small villages that are extremely poor, and aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, leaders are hiding out in those small villages protected by their tribes. this is a very messy situation, and my concern...
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they have a big swath of pakistan. they're in yemen. they're in somalia. they're all the way across north africa in a growing movement that's now reaching down into the western part of africa. and so just objectively you really don't need an opinion. you just need to look at the facts, sir. al qaeda is much bigger and much more geographically dispersed than it was at 9/11. >> chad, would you agree with that? and what kind of operations are we talking about in places like algeria and eenggypt compared t what they had in afghanistan when they had the harboring government of the taliban? >> i couldn't agree more with michael. and i'd actually go a step further to say not only is he right that they have now expanded geographically and have multiple launch points for operations but if we step back and look at that map you'll see it lays over very nicely with what we're witnessing with the arab spring. we're also witnessing a dysfunctional nato operation both in afghanistan as well as in libya that leads to openings for al qaeda there. as michael points out, the
they have a big swath of pakistan. they're in yemen. they're in somalia. they're all the way across north africa in a growing movement that's now reaching down into the western part of africa. and so just objectively you really don't need an opinion. you just need to look at the facts, sir. al qaeda is much bigger and much more geographically dispersed than it was at 9/11. >> chad, would you agree with that? and what kind of operations are we talking about in places like algeria and...
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i see staggering statistics from egypt, pakistan, even britain, 40% of british muslims want to embrace sharia. what about american muslims? >> the radicalization is what peter king -- that's the intent of where he is now. >> wait a minute -- >> bringing in families who have had children in their families that have been radicalized. find out how that can happen to an american? >> does it bother you that -- >> i really like her. i don't disagree -- >> i don't dislike anybody. i want to be clear -- >> if you listen, there's not that much difference. >> wait a minute. >> they're against radical islam. radical islam exists. we take a look at it through our western perspectives, and we look and think, well, that can't possibly be the way some people think. well, it is. >> there is no question the radicalization of islam has generated and spawned all sorts of horrific behavior. i have been over the years very clear about that. the brush with which she paints, though, when she said -- and i don't have my "new york times," but she said -- she -- >> she did -- >> she was quoted on the front page
i see staggering statistics from egypt, pakistan, even britain, 40% of british muslims want to embrace sharia. what about american muslims? >> the radicalization is what peter king -- that's the intent of where he is now. >> wait a minute -- >> bringing in families who have had children in their families that have been radicalized. find out how that can happen to an american? >> does it bother you that -- >> i really like her. i don't disagree -- >> i don't...